[Ovmsdev] VW e-Up read/poll via OBD is working
Chris van der Meijden
chris at arachnon.de
Thu Aug 13 01:34:39 HKT 2020
Hey Michael
Thanx.
Does the human readable vehicle ID description ("VW e-Up (Komfort
CAN)") matter at all, or will it be filled out automaticly by the new
vehicle ID configuration? If not, how do I set that param?
Regards
Chris
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 19:18 +0200 schrieb Michael Balzer:
> Chris,
>
>
>
> yes, that would do. But…
>
>
>
> a) you shouldn't overwrite the vehicle name, that's a user
> configuration, and
>
>
>
> b) if you would overwrite the vehicle name, you would set "name"
> in
> "vehicle", not "vehicle.name" in "auto" (which doesn't exist).
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 12.08.20 um 18:59 schrieb Chris van
> der Meijden:
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > I found some time for the "hanging upgrade" issue since we
> > splitted the vehicle ID from VWUP to VWUP.T26 and VWUP.OBD.
> >
> >
> >
> > Would this code in ovms_config.cpp within
> > OvmsConfig::upgrade() prevent the "hanging" after an
> > upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > // Migrate vehicle ID VWUP to VWUP.T26
> > if (GetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type") == "VWUP")
> > {
> > SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type", "VWUP.T26");
> > SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.name", "VW e-Up (Komfort
> > CAN)");
> > }
> >
> >
> >
> > If so, I would put that in a pull request as soon as we have
> > a new "release worthy" version?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx for checking.
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetinx
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 11:34 +0200 schrieb Michael
> > Balzer:
> >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the framework shouldn't get stuck if a vehicle cannot be
> > > loaded,
> > > it should fall back to booting without a vehicle. I'll
> > > have a
> > > look at that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Btw, to automatically update user configurations, you can
> > > extend
> > > OvmsConfig::upgrade(). Users shouldn't need to take care
> > > of
> > > special update preparations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 31.07.20 um 11:05 schrieb Chris
> > > van der Meijden:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to my trial and error T26A world :-))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This morning I flashed the new T26A/OBD version to my
> > > > OVMS. After the OTA flash the device did not come
> > > > back to
> > > > the networks. Only USB terminal access was left.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The reason was, that I did no remove the old vehicle
> > > > config "VWUP" before flashing and rebooting. The
> > > > new image
> > > > has "VWUP.T26" and "VWUP.OBD" as vehicle config,
> > > > but no more
> > > > "VWUP". So the device could not find its vehicle
> > > > config and
> > > > got stuck.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From the USB terminal I bootet back to OTA_0, said in
> > > > the
> > > > vehicle config that my vehicle was a Nissan Leaf
> > > > and then
> > > > booted back to OTA_1. The device came up with the
> > > > new
> > > > firmware and I could change the vehicle config to
> > > > "VWUP
> > > > (Komfort CAN)".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everything is now running fine ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I will write this down in the documentation for the
> > > > e-Up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greetinx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 09:50 +0200 schrieb
> > > > Michael
> > > > Balzer:
> > > >
> > > > > Soko,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > you only had the door open, but not turned on the
> > > > > car? If
> > > > > there are additional buses, they may be switched
> > > > > off until
> > > > > the car is turned on…
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The OBD connector scheme is the general pin
> > > > > assignment, I
> > > > > meant the specific VW e-Up schematics. But if you
> > > > > don't see
> > > > > any voltages with the car turned on, that's bad
> > > > > news.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There may still be some command interface for the
> > > > > OBD
> > > > > gateway to enable live data, but without any info
> > > > > about the
> > > > > gateway, it will be hard to even find out how to
> > > > > address it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 31.07.20 um 09:06 schrieb
> > > > > Soko:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > > > If I did nothing wrong I have bad news:
> > > > > > @Michael:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With OBD port schematics I think you mean
> > > > > > this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_diagnostics#OBD
> > > > > > -II_diagnostic_connector
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Specifically if there are some other pins
> > > > > > used than the
> > > > > > standard CAN pins 6 and 14.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I had the drivers door open, no key in
> > > > > > ignition and
> > > > > > measured the voltages of all pins in
> > > > > > relation to pin 5
> > > > > > (signal ground). There is no voltage on any
> > > > > > pin besides
> > > > > > 2.5V on 6 and 14, and 12V on 16 of course.
> > > > > > So there are
> > > > > > no hidden CAN buses (or any other signals)
> > > > > > afaict.
> > > > > > @Mark:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the hint with the can log. It's
> > > > > > way easier
> > > > > > than RE Tools for just checking if there is
> > > > > > any traffic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having said that... there is no traffic
> > > > > > whatsoever
> > > > > > besides what I am polling and the reply.
> > > > > > Even when
> > > > > > ignition is on I only see the poll and the
> > > > > > reply on the
> > > > > > can log
> > > > > > So it seems devmarxx was right: The gateway
> > > > > > shields
> > > > > > everything and there are even no other
> > > > > > hidden signals on
> > > > > > the OBD port.
> > > > > > I'm happy to try any other ideas you guys
> > > > > > have. Just
> > > > > > let me know!
> > > > > > Soko
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 31.07.2020 02:11, Mark
> > > > > > Webb-Johnson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are just looking for traffic on
> > > > > > > the CAN bus, a
> > > > > > > simple can log would be the easiest.
> > > > > > > Assuming you are on
> > > > > > > USB console, it is:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# log level verbose canlog-monitor
> > > > > > > OVMS# can log start monitor crtd
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you are using ssh, you need to add
> > > > > > > a:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# log monitor yes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To stop the logging:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# can log stop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Documentation here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/late
> > > > > > > st/crtd/can_logging.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For my work, I personally prefer
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > arrangement:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# can log start tcpserver
> > > > > > > transmit
> > > > > > > gvret-b :23
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And then I use SavvyCAN on a laptop
> > > > > > > to connect over wifi and work.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding the ‘re’ system, it is a
> > > > > > > work-in-progress, and not currently
> > > > > > > documented. It
> > > > > > > is still kind of a mess at the moment
> > > > > > > (particularly
> > > > > > > for multiplexed message IDs), as I
> > > > > > > continue to work
> > > > > > > on DBC integration. That said, it is
> > > > > > > basically
> > > > > > > functional.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To start it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# re start
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To stop it:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# re stop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To see discovered IDs:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OVMS# re list
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It will (by default) listen on all open
> > > > > > > CAN
> > > > > > > buses, and show you the discovered
> > > > > > > ID, message
> > > > > > > count, interval (in ms), and last
> > > > > > > message seen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It has some rudimentary ability to
> > > > > > > monitor active
> > > > > > > polling protocols with ‘re obdii
> > > > > > > extended
> > > > > > > <min> <max>’ (or standard),
> > > > > > > specifying
> > > > > > > the range of IDs used by the ECUs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards, Mark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 30 Jul 2020, at 11:56 PM, Soko
> > > > > > > > <ovms at soko.cc>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @devmarxx: Is there any
> > > > > > > > doc/guide
> > > > > > > > on how to use this RE
> > > > > > > > Tools?
> > > > > > > > @Michael: Yeah, I know. You
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > have done my 1-day work in
> > > > > > > > 5 mins. I know
> > > > > > > > C++ but I don't know the
> > > > > > > > OVMS framework. But
> > > > > > > > its like with any project:
> > > > > > > > The issue is not
> > > > > > > > the language, its the
> > > > > > > > framework.
> > > > > > > > Until you have yours you have
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > settle with me
> > > > > > > > unfortunately ;)
> > > > > > > > My cousin has a working VCDS
> > > > > > > > HEX
> > > > > > > > interface and I have an y-
> > > > > > > > adapter so I can
> > > > > > > > listen with an ELM327
> > > > > > > > adapter to the
> > > > > > > > commands VCDS is sending.
> > > > > > > > Maybe I can find
> > > > > > > > any car status there.
> > > > > > > > Device 09 is a good
> > > > > > > > hint.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But as you said: I have still
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > to poll this, even if I
> > > > > > > > find a status.
> > > > > > > > I can't say (of course) if
> > > > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > > another CAN bus @ OBD port.
> > > > > > > > All this
> > > > > > > > CAN/OBD/Bus stuff is
> > > > > > > > completely new to me..
> > > > > > > > ModBus RTU/TCP, MBus etc. I
> > > > > > > > would know ;)
> > > > > > > > So if you can point me in any
> > > > > > > > direction what to try - or
> > > > > > > > what you would do
> > > > > > > > - I happy to dig into it.
> > > > > > > > Soko
> > > > > > > > PS: Any idea when you'll get
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > Mii?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 30.07.2020
> > > > > > > > 17:14, Michael Balzer
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If only I had my Mii
> > > > > > > > > already…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the OBD port is
> > > > > > > > > shielded from the CAN
> > > > > > > > > traffic, you need to poll
> > > > > > > > > some device. ECU =
> > > > > > > > > Engine Control Unit =
> > > > > > > > > device 01.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would suspect the basic
> > > > > > > > > car status info to
> > > > > > > > > be available from device
> > > > > > > > > 09 (central
> > > > > > > > > electrics), but it seems
> > > > > > > > > no PIDs have been
> > > > > > > > > RE'd from there yet. So
> > > > > > > > > maybe you need to
> > > > > > > > > derive the info from some
> > > > > > > > > other mode/status
> > > > > > > > > register.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's bad needing to
> > > > > > > > > continuosly poll to get
> > > > > > > > > the live status data. Is
> > > > > > > > > possibly another,
> > > > > > > > > unfiltered CAN bus
> > > > > > > > > available at the OBD
> > > > > > > > > port?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am 30.07.20 um
> > > > > > > > > 16:43 schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ahhh OK, I've found
> > > > > > > > > > OvmsVehicle::virtua
> > > > > > > > > > l void
> > > > > > > > > > TickerXXX(uint32_t
> > > > > > > > > > ticker);
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Got it! This was
> > > > > > > > > > exactly my issue as I
> > > > > > > > > > didn't know about
> > > > > > > > > > any function which
> > > > > > > > > > gets called
> > > > > > > > > > regularly so I could check
> > > > > > > > > > something like
> > > > > > > > > > this...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's not an ideal
> > > > > > > > > > situation though: I
> > > > > > > > > > just can slow down
> > > > > > > > > > the poll after my
> > > > > > > > > > fail-counter gets
> > > > > > > > > > too high as I need to
> > > > > > > > > > check when the car
> > > > > > > > > > gets powered again.
> > > > > > > > > > So all I can do is
> > > > > > > > > > polling, lets say
> > > > > > > > > > every 60 secs when
> > > > > > > > > > the car is off, and
> > > > > > > > > > increase it once
> > > > > > > > > > its on. But there is
> > > > > > > > > > now way around this
> > > > > > > > > > 60-sec polling if
> > > > > > > > > > the only thing I
> > > > > > > > > > can do is poll :(
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Afaik there is only
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > sharkcow's list
> > > > > > > > > > below, reverse
> > > > > > > > > > engineered by him
> > > > > > > > > > from ODBeleven.
> > > > > > > > > > (dev)marxx exlpained
> > > > > > > > > > to me:
> > > > > > > > > > There is a gateway
> > > > > > > > > > between the CAN-Buses
> > > > > > > > > > and the OBD
> > > > > > > > > > Connector in all VW-AG
> > > > > > > > > > vehicles which only
> > > > > > > > > > replies to polls and
> > > > > > > > > > also acts as
> > > > > > > > > > security gateway if you
> > > > > > > > > > want to write to
> > > > > > > > > > the buses.
> > > > > > > > > > So I think I cannot
> > > > > > > > > > really do
> > > > > > > > > > a can log or use re
> > > > > > > > > > tool as the OBD
> > > > > > > > > > interface stays
> > > > > > > > > > quiet if I'm not polling
> > > > > > > > > > it...
> > > > > > > > > > And as there is no
> > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > vehicle from
> > > > > > > > > > VW,Seat,Skoda,Audi,etc. in
> > > > > > > > > > OVMS. So I have no
> > > > > > > > > > cheat-sheet :(
> > > > > > > > > > Anyhow... I would
> > > > > > > > > > need to poll
> > > > > > > > > > one ECU (is this
> > > > > > > > > > the correct therm?)
> > > > > > > > > > which doesn't shuts
> > > > > > > > > > down... or maybe the
> > > > > > > > > > issue is the OBD-
> > > > > > > > > > gateway shutting down.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > > > > > Soko
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 30.07.2020
> > > > > > > > > > 16:17, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > Balzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Soko,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > nice progress :-)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If you can't
> > > > > > > > > > > detect vehicle state by
> > > > > > > > > > > listening to
> > > > > > > > > > > regular status CAN frames,
> > > > > > > > > > > you can check the
> > > > > > > > > > > time since the last
> > > > > > > > > > > poll reply in the
> > > > > > > > > > > per second ticker.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As poll replies
> > > > > > > > > > > normally come in fast,
> > > > > > > > > > > you should be
> > > > > > > > > > > able to detect a
> > > > > > > > > > > switch-off by a
> > > > > > > > > > > small timeout, say 3
> > > > > > > > > > > seconds… probably
> > > > > > > > > > > need to add a counter,
> > > > > > > > > > > as a single poll
> > > > > > > > > > > may get lost / ignored.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > CAN tx errors can
> > > > > > > > > > > be caused by other
> > > > > > > > > > > issues as well,
> > > > > > > > > > > so should generally not
> > > > > > > > > > > be interpreted
> > > > > > > > > > > that way.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But… are you sure
> > > > > > > > > > > there are no status
> > > > > > > > > > > frames on the
> > > > > > > > > > > bus? Have you done a can
> > > > > > > > > > > log or tried the
> > > > > > > > > > > re tool?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Am 30.07.20
> > > > > > > > > > > um 14:43
> > > > > > > > > > > schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Want to
> > > > > > > > > > > > report success on connecting
> > > > > > > > > > > > and reading
> > > > > > > > > > > > my VW e-Up via OBD cable
> > > > > > > > > > > > using the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Poller. As you can see in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > screenshot of the log attached I
> > > > > > > > > > > > get an
> > > > > > > > > > > > IncomingPollReply(..) call and
> > > > > > > > > > > > an SoC value
> > > > > > > > > > > > of 33.333%
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Once I turn
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the ignition and lock
> > > > > > > > > > > > the car
> > > > > > > > > > > > though I don't get any replies
> > > > > > > > > > > > no more (line
> > > > > > > > > > > > D 793813) and then I get
> > > > > > > > > > > > can1
> > > > > > > > > > > > errors... I'm polling with 10
> > > > > > > > > > > > seconds
> > > > > > > > > > > > intervall.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I know that
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is as it should be...
> > > > > > > > > > > > but my issue
> > > > > > > > > > > > is: I don't have any way
> > > > > > > > > > > > to know if
> > > > > > > > > > > > the ignition is on, the key
> > > > > > > > > > > > is in, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > car is running, the car is
> > > > > > > > > > > > charging as
> > > > > > > > > > > > the PIDs are not known for
> > > > > > > > > > > > such values
> > > > > > > > > > > > (afaik by the lists of
> > > > > > > > > > > > sharkcow http
> > > > > > > > > > > > s://www.goingelectric.de/wiki/Liste-der-OBD2-
> > > > > > > > > > > > Codes/).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > So what would
> > > > > > > > > > > > be the best approach to
> > > > > > > > > > > > change the
> > > > > > > > > > > > different polling states?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can I somehow
> > > > > > > > > > > > get called (in my
> > > > > > > > > > > > vehicle-
> > > > > > > > > > > > class) if an can-error is
> > > > > > > > > > > > thrown? Then
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would increase the poll
> > > > > > > > > > > > frequency.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Soko
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
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