[Ovmsdev] Poor wifi performance

Stephen Casner casner at acm.org
Tue Jul 10 05:16:24 HKT 2018


Perhaps it is time to update sdkconfig.default.hw3{0,1} in conjunction
with the esp-idf update?

                                                        -- Steve

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:

> Works for me, and the tonight’s edge nightly build will feature this.
>
> Only issue I am seeing is that Espressif seemed to have messed up the crlf handling on ‘make monitor’ again. The ‘make simple_monitor’ works fine, but for the full monitor terminal emulator, the CRLF issued by our console (when you press ENTER) is lost. Just seems to end up as a CR (LF discarded).
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> > On 9 Jul 2018, at 6:14 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, no user feedback up to now on the wifi issues. As I don't have them myself, I need to wait for feedback. But no news means it's at least not worse than before ;)
> >
> > Anyway, I've pushed the changes and esp-idf update.
> >
> > @all: you need to update your esp-idf to build the current version:
> > cd $IDF_PATH
> > git pull
> > git submodule update --recursive
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 08.07.2018 um 10:59 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
> >>> I even have some more free IRAM now, it used to be down to ~1K and is now ~7K.
> >>
> >> That is very very good news. Using RELEASE build (rather than DEBUG), I got mine down to a usable level, but this should give us some breathing room.
> >>
> >> Any noticeable improvement to the wifi issues?
> >>
> >> Regards, Mark.
> >>
> >>> On 8 Jul 2018, at 4:49 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The new esp-idf works good, I think I'll push the changes this evening.
> >>>
> >>> I even have some more free IRAM now, it used to be down to ~1K and is now ~7K.
> >>>
> >>> Remaining crashes recorded up to now:
> >>> 3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018 20:49:00),7,Crash,8,14,1,0,IllegalInstruction,0,0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 ,
> >>>
> >>> 3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_0/edge (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018 20:49:00),98,Crash,8,14,1,0,LoadProhibited,1,0x401165fc 0x00060230 0x80106004 0x3fff0d40 0x3ffc4794 0x00000000 0x3f4020ac 0x3fff1080 0x3fff1060 0x00000008 0x3ffed634 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x3ffc41f5 0x000000ff 0x0000ff00 0x00ff0000 0xff000000 0x00000004 0x0000001c 0x00000064 0x4009ee01 0x4009ee11 0xffffffff ,0x401165fc 0x40106001 0x400d3f9b 0x400d3ab5
> >>> →
> >>> Using elf file: tmp/3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty-elf/ovms3.elf
> >>> 0x401165fc is in _vfprintf_r (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c:1855).
> >>> 0x40106001 is in _siprintf_r (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/siprintf.c:124).
> >>> 0x400d3f9b is in std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >::_M_construct<char*>(char*, char*, std::forward_iterator_tag) (/home/balzer/esp/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.tcc:215).
> >>> 210          basic_string<_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc>::
> >>> 211          _M_construct(_InIterator __beg, _InIterator __end,
> >>> 212               std::forward_iterator_tag)
> >>> 213          {
> >>> 214        // NB: Not required, but considered best practice.
> >>> 215        if (__gnu_cxx::__is_null_pointer(__beg) && __beg != __end)
> >>> 216          std::__throw_logic_error(__N("basic_string::"
> >>> 217                           "_M_construct null not valid"));
> >>> 218
> >>> 219        size_type __dnew = static_cast<size_type>(std::distance(__beg, __end));
> >>> 0x400d3ab5 is in canlog::LogStatus(canbus*, CAN_LogEntry_t, CAN_status_t const*) (/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/can/src/canlog.cpp:297).
> >>> 292        return;
> >>> 293      if (CheckFilter(bus, type))
> >>> 294        {
> >>> 295        CAN_LogMsg_t msg;
> >>> 296        msg.timestamp = esp_log_timestamp();
> >>> 297        msg.bus = bus;
> >>> 298        msg.type = type;
> >>> 299        msg.status = *status;
> >>> 300        m_msgcount++;
> >>> 301        if (xQueueSend(m_queue, &msg, 0) != pdTRUE)
> >>>
> >>> 3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018 20:49:00),11,Crash,12,12,3,0,abort(),0,,0x40095e74 0x4009606f 0x400ddaf7 0x40084e15 0x401e271d
> >>> → watchdog timeout, no more info
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 06.07.2018 um 22:07 schrieb Michael Balzer:
> >>>> I've been using APCLIENT all the time and only had one crash that looked like a wifi problem. This really is a very specific problem. I also have a very good wifi signal, I can perfectly use my module's web UI while the car is in my garage two floors below. But I live in an uncrowded area, not much wifi competition.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have updated my esp-idf to the latest upstream master (it's v3.2 now) and could build without any memory issues. The wifi driver now, besided loads of bug fixes, also supports CSI. Our code only needs a minor adjustment if you'd like to compile yourself, add…
> >>>>
> >>>> #define _SOC_SPI_PERIPH_H_ // don't include spi_periph.h (type conflict)
> >>>>
> >>>> …in components/spinodma/spi_master_nodma.h before #include "driver/spi_common.h".
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't want to compile, the new build (with CSI enabled) is also on my server:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/ <http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/>
> >>>>
> >>>> …and now being installed by my beta testers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 06.07.2018 um 16:28 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
> >>>>> My 2c:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the access points I normally use, it works 100% of the time for me. The only issue I had was when the SSID password was wrong on one of my access points (sharing the same SSID) and that was randomly causing me connection issues (every time the ESP32 picked it).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also don’t use APCLIENT, and only use SCLIENT mode. I’ve found APCLIENT to be                         buggy as hell.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But, I do have problems connecting to some access points. In particular phone hotspots. I suspect either bugs in the wifi stack, or some issue with channels.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only thing I am wary of is that our current code does this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> esp_wifi_set_config…
> >>>>> esp_wifi_start…
> >>>>> esp_wifi_connect...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But the Espressif examples have:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> esp_wifi_set_config…
> >>>>> esp_wifi_start…
> >>>>> Wait for SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START
> >>>>> esp_wifi_connect...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had that working the Espressif way in my big wifi refactor that never made it to production. But our current code doesn’t wait for the SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START before calling esp_wifi_connect.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards, Mark.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6 Jul 2018, at 9:04 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've had similar reports regarding poor wifi connectivity, and this seems to affect some modules more than others (or may be channel/frequency dependant?). One
> >>>>>> user has just 1-2 bars AP wifi signal with the module placed ~ 50 cm away from the phone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also still get reports of spurious strange crashes, that mostly seem to be related to situations with poor wifi signal. Some crash backtraces just are
> >>>>>> complete blank / null, and there is no crash report on the USB output for these before reboot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yesterday, Frank tried to perform some wifi scans. The first scan went fine, the second never returned, he had to power off the module. After reboot, all
> >>>>>> successive scans worked.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Two users reported they occasionally cannot auth to the OVMS AP with the correct password, and they can then reconnect just by retrying for some minutes or by
> >>>>>> connecting & disconnecting another client to the AP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I already had a look at the wifi tx power configuration, it's at 100% by default.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This all feels like a) we need to change something about the antenna, and b) there are quite some bugs in the wifi blob.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looking at https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master <https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master> it seems there have been numerous wifi blob fixes lately. Last time I checked I still was
> >>>>>> out of memory with the current esp-idf, I'll check again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 06.07.2018 um 01:48 schrieb Stephen Casner:
> >>>>>>> I find the wifi performance of OVMS v3 to be poor, and I'm wondering
> >>>>>>> how it might be improved.  I have a mix of thoughts here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For both my own unit and that of Timothy Rodgers, wifi reception in
> >>>>>>> our garages was unusable.  You can blame that on too much distance
> >>>>>>> from the access point, but my iPhone and MacBook both access the wifi
> >>>>>>> just fine from my garage.  The wifi antenna in the OVMS is probably
> >>>>>>> smaller and its location within the metal framework around the car's
> >>>>>>> firewall may impede radio transmission.  Perhaps it would be feasible
> >>>>>>> to switch to an ESP32-WROVER-I with an external antenna to improve
> >>>>>>> performance, but that would be a big deal.  If there is a transmit
> >>>>>>> power adjustment, perhaps that could be increased?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When Timothy parks his car next to his house, which is about 50 feet
> >>>>>>> closer than the garage, then the wifi reception was good enough for
> >>>>>>> the update to 3.1.008 to succeed.  But when he tries to connect with
> >>>>>>> the browser, page updates often time out, so it is close to unusable.
> >>>>>>> Perhaps we could improve usability by increasing the timeout in our
> >>>>>>> javascript to allow more time for TCP to retransmit?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For my own unit, I switched from AP+client to just client mode and at
> >>>>>>> first it seemed that had improved the client performance.  But still
> >>>>>>> the next day I had no access from the iPhone app.  When I connected to
> >>>>>>> the console to find out why I saw that server v2 was repeatedly trying
> >>>>>>> to connect and failing.  I'm presuming that the cause was poor wifi
> >>>>>>> connectivity since I was also not able to reach the web server on the
> >>>>>>> client address, although I have not proven that.  But since the client
> >>>>>>> wifi was associated with the home AP and had an address, the OVMS
> >>>>>>> network routing preferred the wifi and did not try to use the modem.
> >>>>>>> For now I have resorted to turning off wifi.  I suggest that the
> >>>>>>> network routing algorithm be enhanced to back off to use the modem if
> >>>>>>> some number of attempts to connect to the server over wifi have
> >>>>>>> failed.  The iPhone will do this for itself (there is a setting to
> >>>>>>> enable this called Wi-Fi Assist).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The behavior of repeated connection attempts and failures by server v2
> >>>>>>> seems to induce a more serious failure after a while, perhaps due to
> >>>>>>> some resource starvation.  At that point there is a failure message
> >>>>>>> "mg_connect(api.openvehicles.com:6867 <http://api.openvehicles.com:6867/>) failed: cannot parse address"
> >>>>>>> every time server v2 tries to connect.  I expect that is a bug that
> >>>>>>> could be fixed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lastly, since we may encounter situations where network communication
> >>>>>>> is not working, we should facilitate access to the console.  When I
> >>>>>>> was trying to help Timothy change a location radius setting remotely
> >>>>>>> by phone and the web browser was timing out, I suggested that he find
> >>>>>>> a micro-USB cable so he could connect to the console.  But then I
> >>>>>>> realized he would not have any application on his laptop that would
> >>>>>>> allow him to connect to the console.  Developers use "make monitor" in
> >>>>>>> the software development cycle, but users won't have that tool.  I
> >>>>>>> have my own program on the MacBook that I use as an alternative when I
> >>>>>>> don't want to induce a reset when I connect.  But is there a simple
> >>>>>>> program for Windows suitable for non-developer users that can connect
> >>>>>>> to the OVMS console?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>                                                        -- Steve
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