[Ovmsdev] Kia Soul EV version 0.2 problems
Robert Cotran
robert at cotran.ca
Thu Nov 5 10:24:09 HKT 2015
Thanks for this, Tom!
I'll get this Perl script running shortly. First I have to figure out
if the OVMS module is being interpreted as "bad" to the Soul EV. Had
some strange things happen with it just now...
Rob
On 11/4/2015 7:48 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> I have a Perl script I use to access the info on the server through
> the HTTP api.
>
> I've attached a zip archive with three scripts. The one you want is
> ovms.pl. First, customize it with your account info, then run "ovms.pl
> s" from the command line. That will dump out the recent records, a day
> or two, that the server has received from the module. The other
> scripts are to automate downloading everything and maintaining a
> complete archive. I can explain in more detail if you care.
>
> Tom
>
> On 11/4/15, 2:46 PM, "Robert Cotran" <robert at cotran.ca
> <mailto:robert at cotran.ca>> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very
> limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS
> firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.
>
> However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes
> I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a
> problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it
> something else?
>
> I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The
> OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any
> other network traffic when it's off.
>
> Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com server with
> an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending
> it? How often do the modules update the server?
>
> Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.
>
> Rob
>
> On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
>> I'm up and running!
>>
>> The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a
>> Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT
>> work), and I can talk to the car finally.
>>
>> PHEW!
>>
>> I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to
>> figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc
>> way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do
>> some reading about that.
>>
>> Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
>>
>> Woohoo! this is awesome!
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
>>> OK so I had/have two problems:
>>>
>>> 1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power
>>> wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing
>>> lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered
>>> to a couple pins.
>>>
>>> 2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up
>>> the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another
>>> cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way
>>> to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current
>>> provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
>>>
>>> So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
>>>> About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Mark
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert at cotran.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial
>>>>> cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a
>>>>> 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of
>>>>> 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be
>>>>> fine...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and
>>>>>> a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a
>>>>>> look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly
>>>>>> what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10
>>>>>> then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM
>>>>>> connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert at cotran.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all again,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really not having any luck here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do
>>>>>>> exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red
>>>>>>> and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy
>>>>>>> so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is
>>>>>>> defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has
>>>>>>> never been used in a car before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the
>>>>>>> same thing happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the
>>>>>>> kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services
>>>>>>> unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this
>>>>>>> going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this
>>>>>>> working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be
>>>>>>> willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy
>>>>>>> the HVAC calls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could
>>>>>>>> use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again
>>>>>>>> removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely
>>>>>>>> you stumbled across two of them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without
>>>>>>>> any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot
>>>>>>>> soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As
>>>>>>>> your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
>>>>>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got
>>>>>>>>> data connection and was able to download data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me
>>>>>>>>> for a code.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue?
>>>>>>>>> Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work?
>>>>>>>>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN
>>>>>>>>>> locked cards.
>>>>>>>>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert at cotran.ca>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia
>>>>>>>>>>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and
>>>>>>>>>>> Geir!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit
>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul
>>>>>>>>>>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a
>>>>>>>>>>> new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into
>>>>>>>>>>> the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the
>>>>>>>>>>> red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for
>>>>>>>>>>> about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9
>>>>>>>>>>> times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED
>>>>>>>>>>> flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then
>>>>>>>>>>> then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast
>>>>>>>>>>> that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like
>>>>>>>>>>> this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over
>>>>>>>>>>> again from the 10, 9 on green.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and
>>>>>>>>>>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two
>>>>>>>>>>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try
>>>>>>>>>>> next.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome Robert :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other
>>>>>>>>>>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twizy guides first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you
>>>>>>>>>>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a
>>>>>>>>>>>> clean config to start with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a
>>>>>>>>>>>> look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've
>>>>>>>>>>>> been following and what you have done so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if
>>>>>>>>>>>> the SIM card has contact.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains
>>>>>>>>>>>> the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback
>>>>>>>>>>>> for this version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> account on github:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...hex:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data
>>>>>>>>>>>> dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need
>>>>>>>>>>>> qualified beta test feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hence I'm not able to click reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total
>>>>>>>>>>>>> newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> car-control code?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really fast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
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