[Ovmsdev] Kia Soul EV version 0.2 problems
Robert Cotran
robert at cotran.ca
Mon Nov 2 21:20:22 HKT 2015
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial
cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V
adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is
that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
> The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a
> laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look
> at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is
> going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then
> reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
>> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert at cotran.ca
>> <mailto:robert at cotran.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all again,
>>
>> I'm really not having any luck here.
>>
>> I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the
>> same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights
>> being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really
>> starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had
>> another kit lying around.
>>
>> The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never
>> been used in a car before.
>>
>> I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same
>> thing happens.
>>
>> I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit
>> with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
>>
>> Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services
>> unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going!
>> I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try
>> to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their
>> CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a
>>> locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM
>>> lock with the SIM toolkit.
>>>
>>> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you
>>> stumbled across two of them.
>>>
>>> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any
>>> error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
>>>
>>> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot
>>> soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your
>>> module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data
>>>> connection and was able to download data.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
>>>>
>>>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then
>>>> again, Geir has it working no problem.
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work?
>>>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked
>>>>> cards.
>>>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert at cotran.ca
>>>>>> <mailto:robert at cotran.ca>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul
>>>>>> EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday
>>>>>> and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I
>>>>>> flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and
>>>>>> there's nothing on the kit yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the
>>>>>> car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and
>>>>>> green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15
>>>>>> seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I
>>>>>> think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times
>>>>>> while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on
>>>>>> and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both
>>>>>> on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then
>>>>>> it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running,
>>>>>> I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM
>>>>>> cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
>>>>>>> Welcome Robert :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models.
>>>>>>> So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should
>>>>>>> first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config
>>>>>>> to start with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the
>>>>>>> config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the
>>>>>>> state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help,
>>>>>>> describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what
>>>>>>> you have done so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the
>>>>>>> SIM card has contact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the
>>>>>>> VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've
>>>>>>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for
>>>>>>> this version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my
>>>>>>> account on github:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System
>>>>>>> ...hex:
>>>>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps
>>>>>>> (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta
>>>>>>> test feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I
>>>>>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon,
>>>>>>>> hence I'm not able to click reply.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the
>>>>>>>> UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so
>>>>>>>> I'm reading through some guides to get started.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the
>>>>>>>> climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will.
>>>>>>>> Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool,
>>>>>>>> but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my
>>>>>>>> other car), so I am quite spoiled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked
>>>>>>>> it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status
>>>>>>>> LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup
>>>>>>>> sequence separate from the car-control code?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green,
>>>>>>>> then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this
>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert
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