[Ovmsdev] Twizy 45

Sat Jun 28 20:28:57 HKT 2014

First of all please confirm that CFG commands (SPEED, POWER, RECUP, etc.) will work properly with Twizy 45. I've tried them on it and everything 
In any case I think we have to update twizy documentation at page 26 to be less ambiguous.
More in general I think guide should be upgraded to provide instructions for both 45 and 80 model. I can try to do it with support.

G.

Il giorno 28/giu/2014, alle ore 06:00, ovmsdev-request at lists.teslaclub.hk ha scritto:

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> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:44:52 +0800
> From: Christopher Cook <christopher.cook at webprofusion.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] changing android app server IP
> To: OVMS Developers <ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk>
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> Off topic but long term it would be prudent to investigate the cross platform options for the app, otherwise there's a lot of duplicate work.
> 
> I'd consider HTML/Cordova, Xamarin (and perhaps Xamarin Forms), Titanium Sdk, etc. 
> 
> Not saying cross platform doesn't have its challenges but otherwise there's probably not enough dev resources to expect to develop a complete app for all platforms.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Tom Saxton <tom at idleloop.com> wrote:
> 
>> On iOS, the App settings is buried in the System Settings app, a terrible
>> UI design. Finally, with iOS 8, there will be a way for apps to send you
>> straight to the app settings. But for now...
>> 
>> Open the Setting app, then scroll down to the bottom to find a list of
>> apps that use the built-in settings mechanism. You'll find an item for
>> "Open Vehicle". In there you'll find the configuration for your OVMS
>> account, including the server IP address.
>> 
>> That's also where you can turn the Open Charge Map stuff on/off and where
>> you can override the module's choice for distance and temperature units.
>> 
>> Arguably the server account should be per-vehicle but I'm guessing the
>> thought was that anyone who has multiple OVMS vehicles will have them all
>> on the same server and making that app-wide means you only have to enter
>> username, password and server IP once.
>> 
>> Of course none of this is any help for figuring out how to do it on
>> Android...
>> 
>>  Tom
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at mainpine.com>
>> Reply-To: OVMS Developers <ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk>
>> Date: Thursday, June 26, 2014 at 4:22 PM
>> To: OVMS Developers <ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk>
>> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] changing android app server IP
>> 
>>> On 06/11/2014 05:23 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
>>>> I think the 'tmc' server is hard-coded in the Android App.
>>>> 
>>>> The code on github is up-to-date, if anyone wants to take a stab at
>>>> making it configurable.
>>> 
>>> I spent a few days getting acquainted with Android development and
>>> toying with the OVMS Android app code, loading it onto the Android
>>> emulator, etc.
>>> 
>>> I couldn't decide where was the best place was to put an "app settings"
>>> menu item, and so I caved and downloaded OVMS from the App Store onto my
>>> iPad...
>>> 
>>>> The iOS App has it in the system settings tab.
>>> 
>>> I don't see it.  Is this in unreleased/unpublished code?
>>> 
>>> There is the "OVMS Server IP" in the "Parameters" section of the
>>> "Control" menu for each configured car.  However, I believe that refers
>>> to the server IP configured in the car module and not for the app.  AND
>>> this same section and menu exist on the Android app (after waiting
>>> long-enough for it to populate... or getting lucky... I can't figure out
>>> which since it often doesn't populate at all).
>>> 
>>> Since for each car the app needs to talk to the same server as the car
>>> module it would be ideal for changes made to this "OVMS Server IP" in
>>> the "Parameters" section to apply to both the IP where the module
>>> communicates *AND* to where the app communicates for that car, but since
>>> this "Parameters" section doesn't even come up at all until the app can
>>> talk to the server and module, I don't think that's how it works,
>>> presently, and it would appear to need a lot of effort to get it working
>>> in that fashion.
>>> 
>>> It would be nice if I could have different car modules talking to
>>> different servers and for me to be able to use one app to rule them
>>> all.  The app would merely talk to different servers for each car.
>>> 
>>> Anyway... since my initial interest is in doing server-side and
>>> car-module-side developments (and not so much the app-side of things)
>>> I'm inclined to just make a hard-coded change to the server IP address
>>> in my Android app and move on for the sake of being productive.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Lee.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> *Lee Howard*
>>> *Mainpine, Inc. Chief Technology Officer*
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:38:05 -0700
> From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at mainpine.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] changing android app server IP
> To: ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk
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> On 06/26/2014 08:38 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
>> On iOS, the App settings is buried in the System Settings app, a terrible
>> UI design.
> 
> Oh, I see.  Thank you.  That was very helpful.
> 
> Yes, it is a terrible UI design by Apple on iOS.
> 
> I was going to try to do on Android similar to what had been done on 
> iOS, but since this is so terrible, I'd rather not do it like that.
> 
>> Arguably the server account should be per-vehicle but I'm guessing the
>> thought was that anyone who has multiple OVMS vehicles will have them all
>> on the same server and making that app-wide means you only have to enter
>> username, password and server IP once.
>> 
>> Of course none of this is any help for figuring out how to do it on
>> Android...
> 
> As I dug-into the Android code better to hard-code the address change I 
> discovered - to my delight - that the app server address is stored in a 
> per-car data object.  Yay!  So this is nice.  I'm going to give this 
> another shot.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lee.
> 
> -- 
> *Lee Howard*
> *Mainpine, Inc. Chief Technology Officer*
> Tel: +1 866 363 6680 | Fax: +1 360 462 8160
> lee.howard at mainpine.com | www.mainpine.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:44:16 -0700
> From: Lee Howard <lee.howard at mainpine.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] changing android app server IP
> To: ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk
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> On 06/27/2014 10:38 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
>> On 06/26/2014 08:38 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
>> 
>>> Arguably the server account should be per-vehicle but I'm guessing the
>>> thought was that anyone who has multiple OVMS vehicles will have them 
>>> all
>>> on the same server and making that app-wide means you only have to enter
>>> username, password and server IP once.
>>> 
>>> Of course none of this is any help for figuring out how to do it on
>>> Android...
>> 
>> As I dug-into the Android code better to hard-code the address change 
>> I discovered - to my delight - that the app server address is stored 
>> in a per-car data object.  Yay!  So this is nice.  I'm going to give 
>> this another shot.
> 
> Here is the patch.  Someone with privs can apply it and commit these 
> changes to the repository if it meets with their approval.
> 
> It's a very small enhancement - basically permitting an interface to 
> sel_server in the CarData object.  The interface is right where it 
> should be, IMO: right where you enter the vehicle info and passwords.  
> The default is left to "tmc.openvehicles.com", but the user now has the 
> capability to modify it (on a per-car basis, even).
> 
> I did not change the sel_server initialization value of 
> "tmc.openvehicles.com".  I could have changed this to "" as with the 
> other CarData strings, but it probably makes little difference. Leaving 
> it to initialize with "tmc.openvehicles.com" possibly it could be 
> confusing to someone later who doesn't recognize that the initialized 
> value is always overwritten by the configured value (as with the other 
> CarData strings which are initialized to "").  If someone cares they can 
> modify that at the top of CarData.java.
> 
> This patch also makes one obvious grammatical correction in a string 
> appearing on the same page layout.
> 
> If there is any concern just look at the patch - it's a very, very 
> benign set of changes.  This e-mail is longer than the patch is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lee.
> 
> -- 
> *Lee Howard*
> *Mainpine, Inc. Chief Technology Officer*
> Tel: +1 866 363 6680 | Fax: +1 360 462 8160
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