[Ovmsdev] 0% SOC Reported in v1.5 Roadster

Wed Mar 7 15:40:42 HKT 2012

Jack, Tom,

Yep, Jack is right. It is feature #14. 0x0e. I seem to have get hexed.

P.S. Tom's problem has been narrowed down to a faulty PIC board. The soldering seems ok, so probably the CAN bus driver chip. The module doesn't work in a 2.x roadster either. We're sending him a new board (I'm going to QC one tonight)..

On 7 Mar 2012, at 3:34 PM, Jack West wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> Carbits is actually feature 14 and would need set to be set to 1 for a 2008 Roadster.
> 
> Feature 15 set to 1 is to enable writing to the CAN bus.  Set to 0 is 'listen' only.
> You only need to do this once.
> 
> So
> SMS 
> FEATURE 15 1 (allows you to do all the fun stuff)
> FEATURE 14 1 (because you have a 2008)
> 
> That should do it (once you get the unit working). If you are using the new iPhone app you can do it from the Cars/I/Control tab.
> 
> I don't think Feature 12 is anything yet.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 6, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net> wrote:
> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Scott451's original (ground breaking) post is at:
>> 
>> http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/4388-iPhone-app/page2?p=49456&viewfull=1#post49456
>> 
>> He talks there about the 2008 roadster, and confirms 1MHz bus speed.
>> 
>> Your confirmation of the wales gps location and 0 SOC means the module is definitely not getting any can bus messages.
>> 
>> It is either a faulty board, or some other incompatibility.
>> 
>> Can you ask Cathy (she is your hardware support, right?) to check the continuity on connections on the MCP2551P and pins #23 and #24 on the PIC CPU?
>> 
>> Do you know anyone close by with a 2.x roadster that you could plug the module in, to rule out 1.5 vs 2.x incompatibility?
>> 
>> Regards, Mark. 
>> 
>> On 7 Mar 2012, at 1:35 AM, Tom Saxton wrote:
>> 
>>> I did the "FEATURE 12 1" SMS command, but got no response. Are those
>>> commands documented somewhere, or is it a "read the code" deal? (It is cool
>>> to be able to read the code.)
>>> 
>>> I get the same "not charging" status with the charge port door open.
>>> 
>>> When I do a GPS command, I get back a link to 52.042460,-3.944089 which I
>>> assume is the default position in Wales.
>>> 
>>> So, it seems the OVMS module isn't getting any of these CAN messages. Is
>>> there a way to tell if the board is getting any messages at all?
>>> 
>>> With Cathy's help, I checked continuity and all four pins going to the MCU
>>> board. They all check out, as do the four twin wires to the other connector.
>>> 
>>> When plugged in, after the start up sequence, I get a solid green LED on
>>> each board and a blinking blue LED on the modem board.
>>> 
>>> Finally, I'm sure my diag port is functional as it has been working with my
>>> Tattler (although the Tattler is going through some brain surgery right now
>>> so I can't confirm that it's working today).
>>> 
>>> BTW, I notice the generated GPS link takes you to a static map that can't be
>>> scaled or panned. This makes it impossible to tell where the pin is if you
>>> don't recognize any features in the static map.
>>> 
>>> I like using a simpler link that gets you a fully functional map:
>>> 
>>>    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.042460,-3.944089
>>> 
>>> Also, I'm also not a big fan of the Tesla logo for the pin, but I have an
>>> unusual history with the company that may be coloring my attitude on that.
>>> 
>>>    Tom
>>> 
>>> on 3/5/12 5:38 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Tom,
>>>> 
>>>> Good to have you aboard.
>>>> 
>>>> We haven't been able to test the module on 1.5 cars (which is why we're only
>>>> shipping to end-users with 2.x cars). The problem we've had is that all the
>>>> developers involved have 2.x cars.
>>>> 
>>>> That said, the module _should_ work in a 1.5 car. Scott451 did the original
>>>> bus decodes on a 1.5 car, and while there are some differences, he did
>>>> document the messages (but we haven't been able to verify this as we have with
>>>> the 2.x cars).
>>>> 
>>>> First, some trivia:
>>>> 
>>>> Our current master document on CAN bus messages is at:
>>>> https://github.com/markwj/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/blob/master/vehicle/C
>>>> ar%20Module/canbus_notes.txt
>>>> and that includes all of Scott451's published work, plus our own additions.
>>>> 
>>>> The SOC message is on the CAN bus - message ID#100, B1=0x80. There is
>>>> supposedly no difference between the 1.5 and 2.x models for this message.
>>>> 
>>>> To get the charging messages correctly, you will need to set the CARBITS
>>>> feature to a 2008 model roadster. An SMS command:
>>>> FEATURE 15 1
>>>> should enable bit#1 of the carbits, and permanently record this as a 2008
>>>> roadster.
>>>> 
>>>> The "Not charging" just means the charge port door is closed (or bit#2 of B2
>>>> on id#100 B1=0x96 is zero). The SOC and Ideal range being zero is similar zero
>>>> (default) values.
>>>> 
>>>> So, either none of these messages are getting from the CAN bus to the module,
>>>> or the messages are completely different on a 1.5 car. I suspect the former.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you try:
>>>> a) A "GPS" SMS command - do you get a location in Wales (default), or the true
>>>> location?
>>>> b) Open the charge port door, and repeat the "STAT" command - do you get a
>>>> charging reply?
>>>> and let us know the result?
>>>> 
>>>> The problem could also just be a faulty module (we had some factory soldering
>>>> issues with early modules), so please verify the soldering looks good, and
>>>> trace continuity test, particularly on the CAN bus side? Or, a loose
>>>> connection on the CAN bus cables (two pins CAN-L and CAN-H), so can you check
>>>> that with a continuity tester? If you have the opportunity, you could try it
>>>> in a 2.x roadster.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a wiring schematic at:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/markwj/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/raw/master/vehicle/Ca
>>>> r%20Module/OVMS_V5a.png
>>>> 
>>>> My guess for this problem is a loose/broken cable on the CAN bus side -
>>>> somewhere between the DIAG connector and the telco-style jacks connecting to
>>>> the PIC motherboard.
>>>> 
>>>> It would be really helpful if you could help us test this and iron out any
>>>> wrinkles for the 1.5 cars. We've had some enquiries from 1.5 end-users, but
>>>> have told them to hold-off for the moment until we can verify things work in a
>>>> 1.5 car.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>> 
>>>> On 6 Mar 2012, at 8:39 AM, Tom Saxton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I just got the OVMS board plugged into our v1.5 Roadster. I haven't jumped
>>>>> through the hoops to get a data plan on my SIM card yet, so I'm just using
>>>>> SMS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I registered my phone and changed my password. Those commands worked as
>>>>> expected. I then did a STAT and got back:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Not charging
>>>>>   Ideal Range: 0 Km
>>>>>   SOC 0%
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's true that it's not charging, but the car is actually at 96% and 185
>>>>> ideal miles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What should I do next?
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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